back in the early 70's, the wt stated that all persons who had lived and died would be resurrected after armageddon.
only non believers would be killed at armageddon, never to return.
in short, if you died before the big a, you were guaranteed to return.. this gave rise amongst several ex's to concerns that their well-meaning jw parents might just consider the possibilty of having their offspring "lovingly" bumped off so as to ensure their resurrection!.
Indoctrination truly runs deep. As much as I feel liberated by knowing TTATT, still I would absolutely not give nor take anyone's blood, nor would I participate in military or patriotic actions. Those two aspects are the constant remnants of having been a JW all my life.
Yes, JWs are pretty radicals in their beliefs.
SL
a large segment of the wts doctrines is contained in the proclamation that there will be an extenuating every lasting life.
on earth for a select majority and a smaller select portion who are going to reside in heaven with god and jesus christ.
jws are influenced to live their lives that is true and advantageous to live accordingly around that proclaiming assertion.. a purposed theory based from ancient mythological beliefs.. to be noted there are other theological beliefs in the after life from other religious beliefs separate from christianity.
I know for sure that there is an 'After one learns TTATT' life. It's the most liberating of lives!!!
SL
please pardon if this a repeated topic.
i have had virtually no contact with any witnesses beside my mother for the past few years.
she watches tv constantly and claims she has never seen anything on the watchtower abuse cases.
In the Spanish side, completely oblivious. The few that know about it, consider it as just one more persecution campaign from Satan and his followers. Complete denial.
There are no more blind than those who refuse to see.
SL
these are from one of the informants who contact atlantis.
we thank him/her for their contributions to us.. 4 boes just arrived.. .. click the links below and then click the green download button.. .. 2015 jw broadcast userguide.
http://wwwb.fileflyer.com/view/d6lpjad.
For some crazy reason, my iPad will not open attachments. Can someone please show them up?
Last week was announced a new meeting on a Saturday once per month to watch the JW broadcast. Now there's a meeting I will never attend!
SL
i was just invited.
i thanked my old elder friend and he left.
(i'm not going).
Going!
Always being the most polite, welcoming, talkative, dutiful, JW wifey. In my mind will be the nice restaurant that we will go to afterwards with family and close friends. Same like in all assemblies and other JW gatherings; taking the socializing and paying no mind to all other doctrinal bs.
SL
jwvictims has done an excellent but disturbing article on how jw's feel about the child abuse problem.. http://jwvictims.org/2013/11/23/jehovahs-witnesses-caught-laughing-at-child-rape-accusers/.
In the Spanish side, the few that even heard about it have dismissed it as just one more satanic plot to smear God's people. Unreal!!!
SL
please pardon if this a repeated topic.
i have had virtually no contact with any witnesses beside my mother for the past few years.
she watches tv constantly and claims she has never seen anything on the watchtower abuse cases.
In the Spanish congs and the JWs I hang out with are absolute ignorant of all abuse cases, the UN scandal, and every other vitriolic stuff against the Org. The Spanish brotherhood is sooooooooooo different!!!
SL
i know of several examples of ones that "left the truth" for up to 20 years, only to suffer through the reinstatement process and feel like they are finally back on track.. how does this happen?.
i personally know of one example where a father of three, leaves jws, abandons wife and family, lives as a gay man then comes back 20 years later as a partaking member of the anointed..
Indoctrination digs deep, deep, deep inside and it is so very difficult to remove.
I secretly feel sorry for the ones coming back; asking out loud inside myself "WHYYY???!!! I make it a point not welcome them back, just politely greet them as time goes on and I bump into them.
SL
am i alone in this feeling?
i wish i could muster the cojones needed to tell my husband "i want a divorce, move away, not be a jw anymore!".
i find myself screaming these same words over and loud inside my mind, several times a day, and yet on the outside my actions could not be more opposed to these inner feelings.. sometimes i worry that this internal conflict will cause me to go crazy.
Oh the trolls.... The trolls.....
This WID character sure has a fine looking high horse.
My hubby and I communicate quite well, and he sure knows I don't buy the last days, no higher education, early age baptisms, and other crazy crap in this religion; what he does not imagine is that I am so far detached that I no longer wish to sell this bull to another soul.
Him, my family and even some friends are worth the sacrifice. However, some days more than others is just so difficult living a lie.
Thank you all for reassuring me that this is not my struggle alone. The time will come when I will break free. I know it will.
SL
am i alone in this feeling?
i wish i could muster the cojones needed to tell my husband "i want a divorce, move away, not be a jw anymore!".
i find myself screaming these same words over and loud inside my mind, several times a day, and yet on the outside my actions could not be more opposed to these inner feelings.. sometimes i worry that this internal conflict will cause me to go crazy.
Reading your comments makes me calm down and put things in perspective.
My husband is an awesome fellow and in my heart of hearts I feel I do not deserve him and I will probably never find another one like him. However, being the dedicated respected elder he is, it would be miserable for us both if I were to leave the religion. For one, he would lose all his privies, and I tell you he is hook line and sinker in this org; he is part of the Warwick construction big time, assemblies arrangements, one of the heavies if this region. It would hurt me emotionally to know that he lost it all because of me, so I continue to gang in there.
I am getting older, though, and this faking crap is not agreeing with me as of late.
SL
